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		<title>By: Fireball</title>
		<link>http://www.joeladami.net/2007/01/23/fragen-an-die-veranstalter-von-blogdelux-questions-to-the-organisators-of-blogdelux/#comment-1777</link>
		<dc:creator>Fireball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dearest of my friends in buzz-viral-marketing, Mister Emmanuel Vivier,&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you for commenting my humble blog! No thanks for using the right formula in speaking to strangers. I think that is a total normal form of politeness. As an &#34;blog-expert&#34; your surely know that in the german blogosphere, the polite form is used in most comments between blogger, sometimes even between good friends.&lt;br /&gt;
I think I AM contructive. I am asking you questions. I don&#39;t publish any conspiracy theories, but I am just guessing, and asking you to say how the things are. I want to know your opinion, your view of sight of this problem. I&#39;ve asked nicley, but you didn&#39;t even reacted for a week, neither by comment nor by email. If I AM misrepresenting the facts, as you say, why don&#39;t you just say how it is?&lt;br /&gt;
I never said a word about &#34;fake-bloggers&#34;. Some people have this idea, I am not sure if they are right, but Don Alphonso is a person that has a very big knowledge about these things, so he&#39;s likley to be right. If not, why just a demento from culture-buzz? There was NO communication between you and me since your last posting, you never reacted. Yesterday I even set you on my skype-list to give you the chance to communicate directly with me, even if I think there MUST be a open discussion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I AM ready to listen, but so far, there are no answers. Not in your blog, nor in comments or per mail.&lt;br /&gt;
I reacted to the meetings, with my conditions that are still actual. Open discussion. Why be closed? I think closed communication in this case is against everything the blogosphere stands for. You want to meet me? Ok, let&#39;s meet tomorrow evening. But with a microphone. Please, talk to me, tell me everything you want to tell, but do it in a maner that everybody can listen/read (to) it. Do you think this is wrong?&lt;br /&gt;
Every time when I asked WHY I should meet with somebody, they just stopped the communication. No you are blaming me not wanting to meet because I&#39;ve just asked why you want to meet me! I am very sorry, but I don&#39;t understand this. But perhaps you can explain me everything! I am still believing that this could happen! I would seem to me like a miracle, but there are so much strange things happening every day on the streets, my dearest friends of all buzz-viral-blog-marketing-people, so there is still a possibilty to convince me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For all your talk about people not organising things generating most of the critics:&lt;br /&gt;
Most of the people criticizing you have organised things. Don Alphonso has even written a book about blogging, Thierry and me started together with some other bloggers from Luxemburg organising a blog-meeting. (There is even a forum where we discussed.) I personal am working on a project to organise reading-sessions from bloggers and other writers. And there is some important point that I think you&#39;ve missed:&lt;br /&gt;
You are paid to do this. Organising blogdelux is your WORK. Speaking for Thierry, Don Alphonso and me, we are doing the projects in our free-time. It would be very nice from you to consider this if you speak about us as &#34;non-organisers&#34;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And there is another point: I don&#39;t know how familiar you are with this, but at the very moment you publish or do something in public your work can be the target of critics. Perhaps in PR and marketing the things are a bit different (I don&#39;t know about it!), but it is very normal that there are people saying things about your work. Even things that don&#39;t please you. The normal attitude is talking with this people and learning from the things that they say.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the moment, I think you are just trying to win time until saturday. At the moment, I don&#39;t think you will ever answer my questions, because you&#39;d have to confess that you&#39;d made a mistake in not giving the same informations to the bloggers as you gave to the press. But I don&#39;t know this. You could change my opinion, Mister Emmanual Vivier.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you want to do so, just start answering my questions concering blogdelux. I am asking you courteously to do so.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
cordialement,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Joël &#34;Fireball&#34; Adami&lt;br /&gt;
Luxembourgs first blogger &#38; pirate (some people even call me &#34;captain&#34;, but I don&#39;t want to to overegg the pudding!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dearest of my friends in buzz-viral-marketing, Mister Emmanuel Vivier,<br />
Thank you for commenting my humble blog! No thanks for using the right formula in speaking to strangers. I think that is a total normal form of politeness. As an &quot;blog-expert&quot; your surely know that in the german blogosphere, the polite form is used in most comments between blogger, sometimes even between good friends.<br />
I think I AM contructive. I am asking you questions. I don&#39;t publish any conspiracy theories, but I am just guessing, and asking you to say how the things are. I want to know your opinion, your view of sight of this problem. I&#39;ve asked nicley, but you didn&#39;t even reacted for a week, neither by comment nor by email. If I AM misrepresenting the facts, as you say, why don&#39;t you just say how it is?<br />
I never said a word about &quot;fake-bloggers&quot;. Some people have this idea, I am not sure if they are right, but Don Alphonso is a person that has a very big knowledge about these things, so he&#39;s likley to be right. If not, why just a demento from culture-buzz? There was NO communication between you and me since your last posting, you never reacted. Yesterday I even set you on my skype-list to give you the chance to communicate directly with me, even if I think there MUST be a open discussion.</p>
<p>I AM ready to listen, but so far, there are no answers. Not in your blog, nor in comments or per mail.<br />
I reacted to the meetings, with my conditions that are still actual. Open discussion. Why be closed? I think closed communication in this case is against everything the blogosphere stands for. You want to meet me? Ok, let&#39;s meet tomorrow evening. But with a microphone. Please, talk to me, tell me everything you want to tell, but do it in a maner that everybody can listen/read (to) it. Do you think this is wrong?<br />
Every time when I asked WHY I should meet with somebody, they just stopped the communication. No you are blaming me not wanting to meet because I&#39;ve just asked why you want to meet me! I am very sorry, but I don&#39;t understand this. But perhaps you can explain me everything! I am still believing that this could happen! I would seem to me like a miracle, but there are so much strange things happening every day on the streets, my dearest friends of all buzz-viral-blog-marketing-people, so there is still a possibilty to convince me.</p>
<p>For all your talk about people not organising things generating most of the critics:<br />
Most of the people criticizing you have organised things. Don Alphonso has even written a book about blogging, Thierry and me started together with some other bloggers from Luxemburg organising a blog-meeting. (There is even a forum where we discussed.) I personal am working on a project to organise reading-sessions from bloggers and other writers. And there is some important point that I think you&#39;ve missed:<br />
You are paid to do this. Organising blogdelux is your WORK. Speaking for Thierry, Don Alphonso and me, we are doing the projects in our free-time. It would be very nice from you to consider this if you speak about us as &quot;non-organisers&quot;.</p>
<p>And there is another point: I don&#39;t know how familiar you are with this, but at the very moment you publish or do something in public your work can be the target of critics. Perhaps in PR and marketing the things are a bit different (I don&#39;t know about it!), but it is very normal that there are people saying things about your work. Even things that don&#39;t please you. The normal attitude is talking with this people and learning from the things that they say.</p>
<p>At the moment, I think you are just trying to win time until saturday. At the moment, I don&#39;t think you will ever answer my questions, because you&#39;d have to confess that you&#39;d made a mistake in not giving the same informations to the bloggers as you gave to the press. But I don&#39;t know this. You could change my opinion, Mister Emmanual Vivier.</p>
<p>If you want to do so, just start answering my questions concering blogdelux. I am asking you courteously to do so.</p>
<p>cordialement,</p>
<p>Joël &quot;Fireball&quot; Adami<br />
Luxembourgs first blogger &amp; pirate (some people even call me &quot;captain&quot;, but I don&#39;t want to to overegg the pudding!)</p>
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		<title>By: Emmanuel about  Rage against the apéro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emmanuel about  Rage against the apéro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(I am writing here in english since you offered me to use this language and since my German master is far less good as I wish)&lt;br /&gt;
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Dear Herr Joël Adami (I use this formula since this is your special request),  if you want to start a conversation and be a bit more constructive, maybe stop acting with so much anger, fantasizing about mysterious conspiracies and launching misleading accusations (Lola, Alex, me... are everyone who disagree with you fake bloggers?!) or misrepresenting the facts. If you want to have answers maybe just start by asking them nicely vs &#34;I want answers&#34; and setting up ultimatums.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No need to shout to be heard... We have no problem to answer if you don&#39;t do the questions and the answers and if you really are ready to listen. If not, stay alone with your « préjugés »... Don&#39;t blame people for not being that much interested in talking with you when they have invited you to meet them and you just have keep trashing them obsesively or judge them without even knowing them. I am used and amused to see that it is always the people who never invest time and energy organizing a thing who always generate most of the critics...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I am writing here in english since you offered me to use this language and since my German master is far less good as I wish)</p>
<p>Dear Herr Joël Adami (I use this formula since this is your special request),  if you want to start a conversation and be a bit more constructive, maybe stop acting with so much anger, fantasizing about mysterious conspiracies and launching misleading accusations (Lola, Alex, me&#8230; are everyone who disagree with you fake bloggers?!) or misrepresenting the facts. If you want to have answers maybe just start by asking them nicely vs &quot;I want answers&quot; and setting up ultimatums.</p>
<p>No need to shout to be heard&#8230; We have no problem to answer if you don&#39;t do the questions and the answers and if you really are ready to listen. If not, stay alone with your « préjugés »&#8230; Don&#39;t blame people for not being that much interested in talking with you when they have invited you to meet them and you just have keep trashing them obsesively or judge them without even knowing them. I am used and amused to see that it is always the people who never invest time and energy organizing a thing who always generate most of the critics&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chat Atkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chat Atkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 08:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warum fallen mir bei Public Relations immer die &#34;Bauchklatscher&#34; vom Schwimmunterricht damals ein?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warum fallen mir bei Public Relations immer die &quot;Bauchklatscher&quot; vom Schwimmunterricht damals ein?</p>
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		<title>By: weytjens</title>
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		<dc:creator>weytjens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 08:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#34;shady methods?&#34; &#34;teeling the truth?&#34;&lt;br /&gt;
I have nothing to prove to anyone and no one has! &lt;br /&gt;
Also, dir sid wierklech &#34;gehirlos&#34;!!!&lt;br /&gt;
I rest my case, your honour!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;shady methods?&quot; &quot;teeling the truth?&quot;<br />
I have nothing to prove to anyone and no one has! <br />
Also, dir sid wierklech &quot;gehirlos&quot;!!!<br />
I rest my case, your honour!</p>
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		<title>By: Thierry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thierry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 00:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ach, &#252;brigens: Ich frage mich ehrlich gesagt, was das soll, jetzt mit einer anderen Sprache zu bloggen. Wollt Ihr jetzt einen auf intellektuell machen oder hofft Ihr, dass wir die Sprache nicht verstehen und aufgeben? Na dann, ich spreche 7 Sprachen und verstehe 10. Bring it on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ach, &uuml;brigens: Ich frage mich ehrlich gesagt, was das soll, jetzt mit einer anderen Sprache zu bloggen. Wollt Ihr jetzt einen auf intellektuell machen oder hofft Ihr, dass wir die Sprache nicht verstehen und aufgeben? Na dann, ich spreche 7 Sprachen und verstehe 10. Bring it on!</p>
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		<title>By: Thierry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thierry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 00:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#34;Give the people who are organizing it, at least, the benefit of the doubt!&#34;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Alright then, let&#39;s analyse what you&#39;ve just said, shall we? &#34;The people who are organizing it&#34; is quite an ironic statement as still NOBODY has explained WHY Culture Buzz is organizing the event while YOU still claim you had the original idea (which Joël has already largely undermined, a fact which you just go on ignoring). &#34;The benefit of the doubt&#34; would require an actual doubt. But there is ABSOLUTELY NONE. Joël has confronted you with challenging questions which are vital to our (meaning Joël and I as we seem to have the same objections) understanding of why you created this hodgepodge of disinformation, contradictory on many levels, and why anyone should come to your meeting in spite of these innumerable lies (which, I cannot underline it enough, not only borders on insolence but you&#39;re spitting in any honest blogger&#39;s face!). Well, anyway, I&#39;m not telling you anything new with this comment but as Joël has been asking for HONEST (of which you seem not to know the meaning considering all your lies) answers for weeks now, and you have chosen to ignore them all along, and now you are blogging in English, maybe that&#39;s your mother tongue and you&#39;ll finally understand now.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you want the benefit of the doubt, give us a reason to trust you. Answer the questions HONESTLY and then we may be willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. So far, the whole issue is extremely fishy - at best!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For now, the jury is still out, but only till Saturday. Hurry up with telling the truth, because you&#39;ve pretty much lost the case. And the case is lost internationally. As you may have noticed, Germany&#39;s already disussing about Culture Buzz&#39;s shady methods as well. But of course you don&#39;t work for that firm or are paid by them to promote their event, don&#39;t you? Well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Give the people who are organizing it, at least, the benefit of the doubt!&quot;</p>
<p>Alright then, let&#39;s analyse what you&#39;ve just said, shall we? &quot;The people who are organizing it&quot; is quite an ironic statement as still NOBODY has explained WHY Culture Buzz is organizing the event while YOU still claim you had the original idea (which Joël has already largely undermined, a fact which you just go on ignoring). &quot;The benefit of the doubt&quot; would require an actual doubt. But there is ABSOLUTELY NONE. Joël has confronted you with challenging questions which are vital to our (meaning Joël and I as we seem to have the same objections) understanding of why you created this hodgepodge of disinformation, contradictory on many levels, and why anyone should come to your meeting in spite of these innumerable lies (which, I cannot underline it enough, not only borders on insolence but you&#39;re spitting in any honest blogger&#39;s face!). Well, anyway, I&#39;m not telling you anything new with this comment but as Joël has been asking for HONEST (of which you seem not to know the meaning considering all your lies) answers for weeks now, and you have chosen to ignore them all along, and now you are blogging in English, maybe that&#39;s your mother tongue and you&#39;ll finally understand now.</p>
<p>If you want the benefit of the doubt, give us a reason to trust you. Answer the questions HONESTLY and then we may be willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. So far, the whole issue is extremely fishy - at best!</p>
<p>For now, the jury is still out, but only till Saturday. Hurry up with telling the truth, because you&#39;ve pretty much lost the case. And the case is lost internationally. As you may have noticed, Germany&#39;s already disussing about Culture Buzz&#39;s shady methods as well. But of course you don&#39;t work for that firm or are paid by them to promote their event, don&#39;t you? Well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Don Alphonso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Alphonso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hat da einer Blogsturm gesagt?&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a href="http://www.blogbar.de/archiv/2007/01/24/grosse-pr-betrachtung-an-kleinem-beispiel/" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.blogbar.de/archi...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hat da einer Blogsturm gesagt?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.blogbar.de/archiv/2007/01/24/grosse-pr-betrachtung-an-kleinem-beispiel/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.blogbar.de/archi.." rel="nofollow">http://www.blogbar.de/archi..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: lOlA2LuXe</title>
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		<dc:creator>lOlA2LuXe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 22:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#39;re vegetarian ? il est mignon... &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Et when U achètes tes vegetablesfood au Cactus, tu sais who qui les fait grow up ? ;o)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J&#39;espère que je disturb nobody ce soir, moi just want to essayer speak anglich but ... pffffff, j&#39;arrive pas non plus !&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
sinon, j&#39;ai une bonne histoire drôle à raconter : &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Un automobiliste a brûlé un feu rouge. Un agent de police survient et verbalise immédiatement en lui demandant :&lt;br /&gt;
- Vous n&#39;avez pas vu que c&#39;était rouge ?&lt;br /&gt;
Et l&#39;automobiliste répond :&lt;br /&gt;
- Si, si, Monsieur l&#39;agent, c&#39;est vous que je n&#39;ai pas vu !!!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ok je sors</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#39;re vegetarian ? il est mignon&#8230; </p>
<p>Et when U achètes tes vegetablesfood au Cactus, tu sais who qui les fait grow up ? ;o)</p>
<p>J&#39;espère que je disturb nobody ce soir, moi just want to essayer speak anglich but &#8230; pffffff, j&#39;arrive pas non plus !</p>
<p>sinon, j&#39;ai une bonne histoire drôle à raconter : </p>
<p>Un automobiliste a brûlé un feu rouge. Un agent de police survient et verbalise immédiatement en lui demandant :<br />
- Vous n&#39;avez pas vu que c&#39;était rouge ?<br />
Et l&#39;automobiliste répond :<br />
- Si, si, Monsieur l&#39;agent, c&#39;est vous que je n&#39;ai pas vu !!!</p>
<p>ok je sors</p>
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		<title>By: weytjens</title>
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		<dc:creator>weytjens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fireball, you should let people decide if they want to go or not, why do you create a &#34;blogstorm&#34; before the event did even happen? Give the people who are organizing it, at least, the benefit of the doubt!&lt;br /&gt;
No hard feelings man, but you&#39;re not the only blogger around here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fireball, you should let people decide if they want to go or not, why do you create a &quot;blogstorm&quot; before the event did even happen? Give the people who are organizing it, at least, the benefit of the doubt!<br />
No hard feelings man, but you&#39;re not the only blogger around here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: weytjens</title>
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		<dc:creator>weytjens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ouais, lola, ehehehe! tu seras en t-shirt moulante?</description>
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